THERE IS NO PLAN

Yeah, I’ve pretty much given up already. Not purposefully, but after TBU I quickly learned not to click on most reaction fic. And now there’s a lot less fic in general.

It got bad after TBU and then never really recovered. I mean, there’s still some fic I really do like but there’s so, so much fic that is so unpleasant to read as someone who doesn’t think Kurt is a selfish asshole who delights in others’ misery

Yeah, you’ve pretty much summed it up between the two of you. I’d say that it’s time for a Glee fandom renaissance or some other combination of buzz words that means fandom becomes a happy place again, but that’s probably not a thing that happens when the canon is in the state it’s in.

Yeah, that I was an asshole in high school thing where Kurt talks about his many failings, usually boiling down to how he’s being mean and awful to Blaine/author’s preferred character is a pretty clear sign of how good the fic’s going to be to him :/

Siggggh, it really seems like this season, there’s been less fic that appears to like both characters then ever. And yeah, when there’s fic where the author thinks they’re being somewhat ~fair instead of bashing, it can end up even more awful to read

I’m seriously just so tired of clicking into fic and regretting it :( I’m thinking that I might just stop reading new things unless someone assures me it’s good first, but even this fic came with a recommendation. 

I don’t know which fic about you’re talking about, but I hate weird OOC self-deprecation, whether it’s done for H/C purposes or especially to prop another character up. :/

I think I actually hate it more than I hate a character randomly being evil. I can lol at Rachel plotting to ruin Kurt’s life because it’s just so absurd, but having Kurt say things like “I was an asshole in high school” in a future fic where the assumption is that S1-3 happened as in canon just makes me so mad because no he was not  >:(((((((((((

I just deleted a post about how much I hated a fic instead of posting it. Truly my restraint is legendary.

n-a-r-i-e:

wake-up-kid:

lettersfromtitan:

So everyone keeps getting annoyed when Ryan Murphy says “We’re doing something that’s never been done on television before” because we have assumed he’s meant splitting the location of the show as they have for S4, or splitting the school year as they are in S4/S5. Neither of which, frankly, seem particularly innovative.

But I’m fairly certain that’s not actually quite what he’s talking about it.  What I think he’s talking about is seasons as the structural unit of American television.

Back during S3 when Glee’s ratings were tanking and they were negotiating for S4, there was a persistent rumor that because of the split season plan Murphy wanted 30-ish episodes.  That would, among other things, have gotten Glee close to the magic 100 episode number for syndication and allow both NYC and Lima stories to get equal time.

That didn’t happen, and S4 was 22 episodes.

But S4 wasn’t written like a 22 episode season.  It was written like 22 episodes of a 30ish-episode season.

My belief, especially with Glee’s frequent/constant hiatuses, is that Murphy has jettisoned seasons as a narrative unit of measurement.

No one would be particularly pissed about this episode if it wasn’t the season finale.

And while it may be the season finale in the sense of now the hiatus is a long one and this is how Fox marketed it, I don’t think that’s what we just saw.

5.01 will actually be 4.23.  And Murphy hasn’t been full of shit.  He’s narratively jettisoned the typical structural unit of US TV and we’ve been rolling our eyes at his huge, ground-breaking change, because nothing on the business and marketing end has lent itself to us being told this or hearing it when we’re told it.

And the shocking two season deal?  Not really about two seasons.  Just about the space it takes to finish the story.  Which is really the rest of the 30ish episode S4 and a 30ish episode S5.

There is absolutely nothing to indicate this is true except the sheer force of will of not being satisfied with the finale and feeling the need to make an excuse and explain it away instead of accepting and facing the truth. This was the finale. It was meant to be the finale, complete with cliffhangers and all. They purposely planned to end the season at Regionals somewhere around ep 16-17. Which is why Ryan demanded the last bit of the season was complete filler. After GABOF, it was just filler. They did a school shooting that went nowhere. Ending the season at regionals was most likely a part of Ryan’s push to make the noobs happen. There are reasons Fox pushed back and didn’t automatically approve the season. At the point where Ryan is walking into the writing room and waxing lyrical about the color orange and brining SJP back only to sing “At the Ballet” there is obviously no plan. There is no plan. There is no plan. There IS NO PLAN. They didn’t have all of season 4 planned out. That has been evidenced by interviews and by the show itself. You don’t walk into the writer’s room and announce a plan for ep 20 or take story line suggestions for a Sadie Hawkins dance from twitter if you had a plan. This isn’t about having 30-ish episodes planned. The year long story has been told in 22 eps before. There’s no indication that whatever “brilliance” they plan to spring on the audience in S5 couldn’t have been done in 22 eps. There has been plenty of evidence that Ryan isn’t ready to let go of the choir room and is pushing the new characters in the final episodes to make them gain traction. Not everything needs an inventive explanation. Some things are plain on their face. The show doesn’t have to be perfect. Every mistake doesn’t need to be excused or explained as a part of some grand plan that never truly manifests. I understand the need to make folks feel better in this moment of disappointment. But making up theories that contradict interviews and evidence is not productive nor helpful. Yes, Ryan apparently wants to extend the season into next year for a bunch of eps. We knew this from previous interviews and spoilers. But that is not evidence of some sort of plan. In fact it is evidence to the contrary, because of this was Ryan’s stated idea since the beginning, Fox would’ve known and there wouldn’t have been the hold out for S5.

Hi stranger I’ve never met you but god bless you for being sane. 

Should Glee magically pick up right where it left off next season, it won’t be a massive reinvention of the medium in any way, shape or form, but rather further evidence of haphazard writing. This show does not know what it is doing most of the time beyond the obvious, and desperately trying to eke out meaning and symbolism out of it is, for the most part, not only a futile effort, but also an embarrassing one, tbh.

There’s plenty of shows that pick up their seasons right where the previous finale left them. Seconds after, even, or in some cases, flashback to a previous time. Season 4/5 of the X-Files comes to mind.

How on earth are you “fairly certain”? Unless you’ve actually been talking to Ryan Murphy, it looks more like you smoked something good, read some interviews from him, desperately tried to make find connections between them, and then posted your feverish ramblings as fact.

crying with laughter and hate tbh

lol, I’ve gathered from my dash that blaine is apparently planning to propose to kurt for reasons?? i guess bc gay people can do that now in some states? was kurt at least like “dude, we’ve been broken up for six months, let’s just bone”?

Kurt is apparently the only person who cares that they aren’t actually dating? Everyone else keeps bringing up ~~~legit reasons why Blaine shouldn’t propose, but no one has pointed out that it’s kind of fucked up to propose to someone who dumped you for cheating? idk, I didn’t see last week and I’m still kind of fuzzy, this is just what I’m picking up. Also Kurt has had like three lines total, and I don’t expect him to speak again? Also Ryder should move to the other side of the world. And then be eaten by a yak.